Thank you very much. My daughter and her husband have left also and we're all new to this site.
We're so happy to be out
the following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.
an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.
within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.
Thank you very much. My daughter and her husband have left also and we're all new to this site.
We're so happy to be out
the following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.
an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.
within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.
The following is a TRUE experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her. An experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of God or not.
My daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [She's an adult now] Started regular pioneering. Within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches. Her knee was also knocked out of 'place' and ligaments damaged. Sad, to say she was 'laid up' and unable to walk for 2 months. Any one who has been a JW knows that for a regular pioneer that is devastating. By the time she was able to walk again she was so far behind on her time that it was discouraging for her, but she kept going and getting as much time as she could, despite the pain of walking on it.
By July/August the following year, all the new pioneers were looking forward to going to the Pioneer School. My daughter ended up being 120/130 hours short of her required amount. The BOE informed her that she was short on her hours and would be unable to attend the pioneer school. My daughter was devastated.
[An elder's daughter in a neighboring cong. was 130 hours behind also, but allowed to go]
To make matters worse; There were only 2 regular pioneers in our hall. The PO's wife and my daughter. Everyone knew the elders wife had gotten her time, becasue she was bragging about, getting it all in 2 months early. One Thurs night the elders gave a 'Marking talk'* [Ask any JW, they will tell what these are]
The subject was about regular pioneers that didn't get their time. Scriptures were read regarding making a vow to Jehovah and not keeping it, regardless of what life may throw at us or unforeseen circumstances. Within just a few minutes, my daughter ran out of the hall sobbing uncontrollably. I grabbed our coats and ran after her, accidently knocking our chairs over and making a big scene.
Only 1 elder followed us out to the parking lot and said "No one called you?" The elder giving the talk was supposed to call and let you know that this talk was going to be given and that it wasn't directed at your daughter." I told him "Oh really. EVERYONE knows that XXXXX got her time and my daughter is the only other reg. pioneer.
Obviously we weren't the only ones that knew it was about my daughter because within a day or 2 she started getting 'sympathy' cards from several others in the cong. and most of which said that the BOE was out of line to give that talk, especially knowing about her accident.
I should have left the organization right then and there. I feel like an idiot for not doing so. I don't expect anyone to reply or to feel sorry for my daughter, I just have to vent about the mental abuse our family has suffered.
That is one of the reasons I have no respect for any elder that 'beats' the sheep
letters patent.
elizabeth the second, by the grace of god queen of australia and her other realms and territories, head of the commonwealth:.
the honourable justice peter david mcclellan am,.
I hope they come down hard on the WTB$ for their failure to comply with the Australian Child Protection law
http://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.
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how sad......
One of the later articles on this incident has an elder from the congregation claiming that Holt was only 'an occassional meeting attendee' so they started doing the typical CYA PR. But in a private e-mail that was passed on from a brother in another congregation that knew Whitney and her husband, he claims that Holt WAS a JW in their congregation and that the 2 couples were friends. We may never know unless someone from that actual Kingdom Hall comes forward
so i've been studying with jws since april 2011.
1 year later i decide to become an unbaptized publisher and take steps toward dedicating myself to jehovah.
i'm a single working mother of 2 with what i will call a very "colored" past.
I don't mean to scare you, but ask anyone on here and they will agree that what I'm about to say is true.
I was a JW for my entire life. Things are different now than they were in the 70's [Yes, I'm aging myself- I'm of the 1975 generation ]
They are nice and sweet until the minute you are baptized {Which of course if you look on pg 215 of the 'Organized to Jehovah's Will' book the 2 questions there] You are getting baptized TO THE ORGANIZATION NOT Jehovah, Jesus & the holy spirit thru the bible Like I did in 1979.
But the minute you become one of Jehovah's Witnesses they turn and immediately start telling you what to wear, what to think, what kind of medical care you can get, the elders words are law, and in the past, even what you and your mate can or cannot do in the bedroom, who you can associate with. PLEASE read Raymond Franz's book Crisis of Conscience before you commit yourself . One more thing, there is NO honorable way to get out.
They will ALL shun you the minute you do not follow the program of the Watchtower Society
i thought that we could just fade away peacefully, but i guess my mother told my sister that we no longer wanted to be jehovah's witnesses so now all hell is breaking loose.. .
it's a relief tho.
i feel really sad and upset also, because my mom lives with my sister and now has been forbidden from contacting me or vice versa.
Interestingly, whenever my mom has a spiritual question or SHE questions some 'New light' I was the only one she would talk to.
Now my sister has launched a slander attack on Facebook and the JW's are scattering like cockroaches. And this is supposed to be Jehovah's organization? I DON'T THINK SO!
If any current JWs are on this forum and having doubts about the Watchtower Society... FOLLOW YOUR GUT FEELING!!!
It's so nice being on these websites and having real friends
i thought that we could just fade away peacefully, but i guess my mother told my sister that we no longer wanted to be jehovah's witnesses so now all hell is breaking loose.. .
it's a relief tho.
i feel really sad and upset also, because my mom lives with my sister and now has been forbidden from contacting me or vice versa.
Thank you all for the great suggestions. My mom is 75 and in good health. She has her own computer but my sis is monitoring her e-mail account. My mom called yesterday and told me that she will contact me if she needs too, but she is going to stay with JW's.
What really pisses me off, is that they accused me of becoming an apostate and disassociating myself. I did NOT write a letter and give it to the elders, so they're basing this only on me saying that I was inactive and quietly wanted to 'fade' away.
Really sad & pathetic of how WTS has all the R&F buffaloed. I really wish that this evil organization would get exposed for who they really are.
i thought that we could just fade away peacefully, but i guess my mother told my sister that we no longer wanted to be jehovah's witnesses so now all hell is breaking loose.. .
it's a relief tho.
i feel really sad and upset also, because my mom lives with my sister and now has been forbidden from contacting me or vice versa.
Thank you all. This is where my true friends and family are. It was an Awake article and I have it. Since my daughter has pre-paid legal she is going to call them and ask if we have any recourse. Maybe a nice letter from a lawyer reminding them of the laws we have in this country regarding keeping my mom prisoner in a cult
I did tell my mom the last time I talked to her, that I have a spare room that she can come live with me. But she has decided to stay in CO with the true apostate and stay in the JW org.
i thought that we could just fade away peacefully, but i guess my mother told my sister that we no longer wanted to be jehovah's witnesses so now all hell is breaking loose.. .
it's a relief tho.
i feel really sad and upset also, because my mom lives with my sister and now has been forbidden from contacting me or vice versa.
Great idea! And call the local news channel and let them go along
i thought that we could just fade away peacefully, but i guess my mother told my sister that we no longer wanted to be jehovah's witnesses so now all hell is breaking loose.. .
it's a relief tho.
i feel really sad and upset also, because my mom lives with my sister and now has been forbidden from contacting me or vice versa.
No, she doesn't. But my daughter suggested it to her. So we'll see. I know alot of you out there have been in this spot and I know its difficult for anyone who was never a JW to understand the mind frelling they do to everyone, so that even your OWN family turns on you like a pack of wolves.